A couple of weeks ago, pop star Chappell Roan made a statement expressing that she was apparently upset about behavior like harassment and stalking. Naturally, I decided to follow the story since controversy drives engagement.

The first person I reached out to was April, a 19-year-old student who made a video talking about how she was disappointed in Roan while also wearing a shirt that said, “Women Don’t Owe You Anything.”

“I just think it’s different for celebrities,” said April, when asked if she saw a contradiction between the message on her shirt and the sentiments she’s been expressing on social media. “When you’re a famous musician your entire career depends on your fans giving you money and attention, so I think it’s only fair that in return celebrities give fans whatever we could possibly want.”

“It’s not that I think women owe anything to society,” said Sean, another student I spoke to, who agrees with April. “It’s just that I think certain women owe something to me in particular. For example, my sister owes me $5, and the female celebrities with whom I’ve formed a parasocial relationship owe me their time and attention.”

“I actually have no issue with what she said; I just get more interaction when I post mean things,” said Nancy, an influencer who has made over a dozen TikToks on the situation. When asked if she felt there were any ethical concerns with this practice, she said, “Wait, should I?”

“Who’s Chappell Roan?” asked Brandon, a self-described audiophile who is very smug about never listening to pop music. I did not ask Brandon for a comment. He just sent me that.

I suppose I could have also reached out to Roan or other celebrities who’ve had similar experiences for comment, but frankly, who cares what they think? All that matters here is us.